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? china's got this fledgling recovery going. if you look at the trade numbers, they're extremely weak into the european bloc. they're okay into the u.s. bloc. but u.s. demand deteriorates, then there's no chinese recovery. and then the bid for commodities and all the demand related to that gets -- >> right. you said it, barry, because it's been signaling that in the currency market because the aussie dollar which is the proxy for the risk trade for asia has been very weak relative to the eu euro. that's signaling the market is very concerned about that going forward. >> copper, as well, i think is another indicator. >> you know, roger, i hear all of this, and you're somebody who knows what happens behind the scenes in washington. you know how these thingsz work. when you see how this is setting up at this point, what do you really see as the most likely scenario between now and the end of the year and then into january? >> first of all, i don't think anybody wins if we go over the fiscal cliff. i don't. i doubt we would stay over the cliff so to speak for more than very, very short pe
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